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seetheavatar
12-21 12:23 PM
Yes all the above/below said happened to a foreign citizen(you) not to their own citizens when they apply for passport renewal.
But indian consulates show their skills to their own people.No other consulate/government offices in the world treats their own citizen in similar manner.
The only time I have had to deal with the Houston Consulate (or any Indian Consualate in the US) was last year when I needed a new/renewed passport. Sent it by mail and received it back in 1 week. I really can't complain since it's the best experience I have had with any consulate.
I applied for a UK visa, and they stuck someone else's visa in my passport. To call them, there's only a paid line for 99c a minute, even if it's their fault. And I was put on hold for 15 mins.
Applied for a Canadian visa, 3 mnths in advance of my trip. When I asked after 3 weeks, they told me pretty rudely that of I enquire about the status, it'll take even longer to process. (This is a tactic I would love to use with my boss whenever he asks about the status of things I'm working on) :) Finally processed it in 2.5 months. This was a simple single entry for 4 days.
Applied for a schengen visa(Germany), they took 3 weeks to process a simple business visa. Sent back my documents saying that I didn't have coverage for repatriation of corpse should I die in Europe, even though my policy clearly had it and this was verified when I presented the documents in person at the consulate. Schengen countries demand that you apply in person, because they want to make sure you have the face for going to Europe.
I have a Dutch friend whose Indian wife took 3 mnths to get a visitor visa. This is because he complained to the Dutch foreign ministry when her visa wasn't done in 3 weeks. He was outraged that the wife of a Dutch citizen should be treated by his govt. like that. Oh well, they showed him.
So given all this, I would assume that all embassies/consulates are inefficient, simply because they are government workers who are not answerable to anyone and can't get fired. And they work in a monopoly.
Of course, we like to think Indian babus are either stupid, lazy, corrupt or a combination of the above because it's a mindset we have. But looking at how USCIS and the embassies above operate, I think Indians are pretty much on par with everyone else.
But indian consulates show their skills to their own people.No other consulate/government offices in the world treats their own citizen in similar manner.
The only time I have had to deal with the Houston Consulate (or any Indian Consualate in the US) was last year when I needed a new/renewed passport. Sent it by mail and received it back in 1 week. I really can't complain since it's the best experience I have had with any consulate.
I applied for a UK visa, and they stuck someone else's visa in my passport. To call them, there's only a paid line for 99c a minute, even if it's their fault. And I was put on hold for 15 mins.
Applied for a Canadian visa, 3 mnths in advance of my trip. When I asked after 3 weeks, they told me pretty rudely that of I enquire about the status, it'll take even longer to process. (This is a tactic I would love to use with my boss whenever he asks about the status of things I'm working on) :) Finally processed it in 2.5 months. This was a simple single entry for 4 days.
Applied for a schengen visa(Germany), they took 3 weeks to process a simple business visa. Sent back my documents saying that I didn't have coverage for repatriation of corpse should I die in Europe, even though my policy clearly had it and this was verified when I presented the documents in person at the consulate. Schengen countries demand that you apply in person, because they want to make sure you have the face for going to Europe.
I have a Dutch friend whose Indian wife took 3 mnths to get a visitor visa. This is because he complained to the Dutch foreign ministry when her visa wasn't done in 3 weeks. He was outraged that the wife of a Dutch citizen should be treated by his govt. like that. Oh well, they showed him.
So given all this, I would assume that all embassies/consulates are inefficient, simply because they are government workers who are not answerable to anyone and can't get fired. And they work in a monopoly.
Of course, we like to think Indian babus are either stupid, lazy, corrupt or a combination of the above because it's a mindset we have. But looking at how USCIS and the embassies above operate, I think Indians are pretty much on par with everyone else.
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srikondoji
07-10 08:01 AM
In my opinion, we should not spend any resources on this guy and or to oppose who oppose our views.
We should stick to getting our goals achieved instead of fighting those who are fighting us.
Dear IV Core - our next media effort must be to expose the lies that Lou Dobbs creates to spread hatred.
Believe me, it is people like Lou Dobbs who are playing these dirty games.
We must take excerpts frrm his interviews and expose all his lies.
What do you all think?
We should stick to getting our goals achieved instead of fighting those who are fighting us.
Dear IV Core - our next media effort must be to expose the lies that Lou Dobbs creates to spread hatred.
Believe me, it is people like Lou Dobbs who are playing these dirty games.
We must take excerpts frrm his interviews and expose all his lies.
What do you all think?
fcres
07-19 02:44 PM
Note sure what you're looking for. The memo I cited went into effect on June 16th. If that's not what you're looking for, you can try "press room" at USCIS's website where all memos are listed by date.
I tried CIS press room, but couldn't find it. And i'm sure that about couple of weeks back i saw that memo (which states if initial evidences are not present, they might reject/deny a case without RFE). It was posted on this board and now its very hard to search with few words.
I tried CIS press room, but couldn't find it. And i'm sure that about couple of weeks back i saw that memo (which states if initial evidences are not present, they might reject/deny a case without RFE). It was posted on this board and now its very hard to search with few words.
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singhsa3
08-20 03:50 PM
Unfortunately, though it is highly unethical but not illegal
I would like to know How to file a complaint about labor fraud? I just found out that my employer didn't file 485 for me and instead he used the labor for someone else. Is there anyway I can file a complaint? I have no other option except to wait until the dates are current again. I paid all the expenses for labor, 140 and 485.
I would like to know How to file a complaint about labor fraud? I just found out that my employer didn't file 485 for me and instead he used the labor for someone else. Is there anyway I can file a complaint? I have no other option except to wait until the dates are current again. I paid all the expenses for labor, 140 and 485.
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werc
04-11 01:02 PM
The only leeway USCIS has w.r.t EADs are the duration of the EADs and not the timing of the issue of the EAD. The fact that the EAD can be given only after the I485 is filed is governed by the INA.
Further the grant of EADs in all the eligible categories is more or less the same. Even if the timing of the grant of the EAD were in USCIS hands ,it is hard to request an alternative interpretation of the regulation in some cases (eg after I-140) while retaining the same interpretation for other categories (eg EAD after completion of Education). This just opens up a lot of loopholes.
ON top of all this we have to take into consideration the huge inherent inertia of the USCIS to change. As already pointed out the only recourse available would be to change the law of the land, on which path we are already traversing.
Further the grant of EADs in all the eligible categories is more or less the same. Even if the timing of the grant of the EAD were in USCIS hands ,it is hard to request an alternative interpretation of the regulation in some cases (eg after I-140) while retaining the same interpretation for other categories (eg EAD after completion of Education). This just opens up a lot of loopholes.
ON top of all this we have to take into consideration the huge inherent inertia of the USCIS to change. As already pointed out the only recourse available would be to change the law of the land, on which path we are already traversing.
legalVoice
12-12 12:57 PM
In short they do not want us here.. they want to suck the money out of you, all the money you earned and saved.
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sapota
08-31 04:01 PM
should be taken with a huge grain of salt. The job of the media is to create sensationalism so that the news can be spread.
The general issues still are true.
Nah, I don't think so. Not a good article.
1. His salary CAN be raised.
2. His wife CAN work, as article mentions that he applied for GC in 2004
3. I never heard about 1 million - I guess we were talking about 140000 unused visas right? Where this 1 million came from?
4. If the company is bought - one doesn't generally reapply for GC.
Even little lies don't serve a good cause as this article can be easily discredited.
The general issues still are true.
Nah, I don't think so. Not a good article.
1. His salary CAN be raised.
2. His wife CAN work, as article mentions that he applied for GC in 2004
3. I never heard about 1 million - I guess we were talking about 140000 unused visas right? Where this 1 million came from?
4. If the company is bought - one doesn't generally reapply for GC.
Even little lies don't serve a good cause as this article can be easily discredited.
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Lisap
08-22 12:33 PM
I am in the exact same situation as you are. I realized on Friday the 10th (by reading threads on here) that my attorney filed before I was current. My attorney said (although I dont know if this is true) that he was willing to argue that they should accept the application. I didn't take my chances and refiled my application. I hope that your attorney does everything that he can for you to get your application back in. If nothing else you should atleast try getting your money back and hiring a new attorney.
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pappu
03-25 09:49 AM
We support all bills and all legislations that help us. Whether its STRIVE act of 2007, or some new version in the House or the new version in the senate or any new name of a bill that helps us.
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Sakthisagar
10-28 09:49 AM
Yes I agree, our history and way of working is also different maybe better/worse, but defenitely way more experience! I don't think I would want to change any thing about family , friend relations and the way we help each other. Even some of the ways we think, has a lot of advantages.
we always manage to get things done. There are a lot of unseen riches that are not realized completely.
we should defenitely avoid aping the west, but pick the good stuff out of it.
being open minded and having freedom of expression is good up to a certain point!
There is freedom and education even in India, I agree infrastructure needs improvement.
India is 3rd in the world if you account for purchasing power parity. Don't trash India so soon. have you looked at how people lived in the US 40-50 years back? While I agree Indian IT should do more quality work and treat employees fairly. He no longer works with Infy, he just made generic comments.
There is no freedom and especially education in India. in US even if you are a 60 year old you can join a university but in India things are different. Freedom, what kind of freedom you are talking about. with the political idiots creating havocs for high thinking people. Hey come to reality do not dream
This time is different, I do work in the financial industry.
I would hate to say this - but was every recovery in the last 2 decades mostly due to a bubble that was created - dot-com, low interest, housing?
There are not many bubbles left to create, and the debt was never this high.
Recovery is bloked mainly do to Politics understand that first.
The growth of India should be more compared to Canada, that has a conservative financial system with lot of regulation. AKA no vegas.
Again never compare Canada with India, India is Unique and I am not putting my Motherland on Trash, You are in a way doing that, by comparing it with Canada and USA.
STOP religious Conversion and propoganda all over the world all the countries will live happily.
we always manage to get things done. There are a lot of unseen riches that are not realized completely.
we should defenitely avoid aping the west, but pick the good stuff out of it.
being open minded and having freedom of expression is good up to a certain point!
There is freedom and education even in India, I agree infrastructure needs improvement.
India is 3rd in the world if you account for purchasing power parity. Don't trash India so soon. have you looked at how people lived in the US 40-50 years back? While I agree Indian IT should do more quality work and treat employees fairly. He no longer works with Infy, he just made generic comments.
There is no freedom and especially education in India. in US even if you are a 60 year old you can join a university but in India things are different. Freedom, what kind of freedom you are talking about. with the political idiots creating havocs for high thinking people. Hey come to reality do not dream
This time is different, I do work in the financial industry.
I would hate to say this - but was every recovery in the last 2 decades mostly due to a bubble that was created - dot-com, low interest, housing?
There are not many bubbles left to create, and the debt was never this high.
Recovery is bloked mainly do to Politics understand that first.
The growth of India should be more compared to Canada, that has a conservative financial system with lot of regulation. AKA no vegas.
Again never compare Canada with India, India is Unique and I am not putting my Motherland on Trash, You are in a way doing that, by comparing it with Canada and USA.
STOP religious Conversion and propoganda all over the world all the countries will live happily.
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salcom3
07-13 07:59 PM
I totally agree with you akgind.
Here is my daughter's case:
1994 she was 8 years old when we brought her to USA
2002 asylum case was denied, we had to go back to our country (we didn't stay illegaly)
2002 after one month we came back, with H-1 visa, daughter with H-4
2003 I applied for LC
2006 My daughter turned 21 - She had to change status to F-1 (of course college fees were triple). She is out of LC process because of her age.
2007 LC approved, she is still F-1 and paying a lot of money in tuition.
I mean, these kids like my daughter (and I am sure there are thousands like her), deserve a break too. If the DREAM ACT is going to benefit illegal persons, it should also benefit children that have waited for their parents' LC process for long years only to see their hopes destroyed.
Here is my daughter's case:
1994 she was 8 years old when we brought her to USA
2002 asylum case was denied, we had to go back to our country (we didn't stay illegaly)
2002 after one month we came back, with H-1 visa, daughter with H-4
2003 I applied for LC
2006 My daughter turned 21 - She had to change status to F-1 (of course college fees were triple). She is out of LC process because of her age.
2007 LC approved, she is still F-1 and paying a lot of money in tuition.
I mean, these kids like my daughter (and I am sure there are thousands like her), deserve a break too. If the DREAM ACT is going to benefit illegal persons, it should also benefit children that have waited for their parents' LC process for long years only to see their hopes destroyed.
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psgprasad
03-28 02:10 PM
Dear Michigan Members,
This mail is to update you guys on the outcome of meeting with Staff Assistant of Senator Carl Levin - Michigan and members of Immigration voice namely
Gajendra Prasad
Stanley Samuel
Manoj kumar
We emphasized the following points
1. We are not talking about H1 increase.
2. Reverse Brain drain impacts.
3. Outsourcing economies gaining edge because of Americas poor legal immigration policies.
4. Delays in normal processing.
5. Impact of Backlogs on America competitiveness.
6. Impact of Backlogs on immigrations careers and their contribution to the industry.
7. Details of Presidents State of union Address for legal immigrants.
8. Statistical details which have shown immigration does not affect Americas growth but helps growth of America.
9. Requests of immigration voice.
We quoted our personal life experience and the hindrances we encounter in our career growth.
I have to say the points were observered with a positive note. and the staff said that these will be conveyed to the Senator.
He also suggested, to contact the media, which we are doing and also told,
he was also aware of immigration voice and its good doings.
He also told the Senator voted in favour of CIR 2006.
He suggested having a direct meeting with Senator would definetly help, as it would have a better impact, but he said that it would be easy to get an appointment of the Senator in DC. At this point, we have requested the immigration voice DC members whether they can have an meeting with the Senator and we can arrange the same with this staff member.
He also requested, if any of our member are meeting with the same Senator office staff in different location(Detroit, Grand Rapids,Escabana etc), please refer this staff name for continuity reasons.
Andy Hickner-Staff Assistant of Senator Carl Levin (Michigan) -Lansing office and this meeting.
I will be sending a Thank you letter soon to this Staff.
We are waiting on Appointment from the following office as we have already faxed the request for appointments, after our initial telephonic request.
1. Senator Debie Stabenow - Michigan.
2. Congress Man Mike Rogers - Michigan 8th District.
3. Congress Man Tim Walberg - Michigan 7th District.
Actions Items.
1. Update Michigan members on the meeting and Request them to refer to our discussion, if they meet the same senators office staff in any other offices.
2. Contact Michigan Public Radio for an interview on our issue.
3. Contact Lansing State Journal for an article on our issue.
4. Follow up on other Law makers.
Thanks
Gajendra Prasad Sankaranarayana
This mail is to update you guys on the outcome of meeting with Staff Assistant of Senator Carl Levin - Michigan and members of Immigration voice namely
Gajendra Prasad
Stanley Samuel
Manoj kumar
We emphasized the following points
1. We are not talking about H1 increase.
2. Reverse Brain drain impacts.
3. Outsourcing economies gaining edge because of Americas poor legal immigration policies.
4. Delays in normal processing.
5. Impact of Backlogs on America competitiveness.
6. Impact of Backlogs on immigrations careers and their contribution to the industry.
7. Details of Presidents State of union Address for legal immigrants.
8. Statistical details which have shown immigration does not affect Americas growth but helps growth of America.
9. Requests of immigration voice.
We quoted our personal life experience and the hindrances we encounter in our career growth.
I have to say the points were observered with a positive note. and the staff said that these will be conveyed to the Senator.
He also suggested, to contact the media, which we are doing and also told,
he was also aware of immigration voice and its good doings.
He also told the Senator voted in favour of CIR 2006.
He suggested having a direct meeting with Senator would definetly help, as it would have a better impact, but he said that it would be easy to get an appointment of the Senator in DC. At this point, we have requested the immigration voice DC members whether they can have an meeting with the Senator and we can arrange the same with this staff member.
He also requested, if any of our member are meeting with the same Senator office staff in different location(Detroit, Grand Rapids,Escabana etc), please refer this staff name for continuity reasons.
Andy Hickner-Staff Assistant of Senator Carl Levin (Michigan) -Lansing office and this meeting.
I will be sending a Thank you letter soon to this Staff.
We are waiting on Appointment from the following office as we have already faxed the request for appointments, after our initial telephonic request.
1. Senator Debie Stabenow - Michigan.
2. Congress Man Mike Rogers - Michigan 8th District.
3. Congress Man Tim Walberg - Michigan 7th District.
Actions Items.
1. Update Michigan members on the meeting and Request them to refer to our discussion, if they meet the same senators office staff in any other offices.
2. Contact Michigan Public Radio for an interview on our issue.
3. Contact Lansing State Journal for an article on our issue.
4. Follow up on other Law makers.
Thanks
Gajendra Prasad Sankaranarayana
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drak70
01-04 07:29 PM
A freind of mine came across a gentleman, who is here on work visa and he is facing a unique problem. He is married to two persons and wants to bring his whole family here in the USA. He was looking for answer if he can get both his spouses and kids here on H4 visas. Currently both of them and his kids are in India. Interesting hmmm :D
Did I miss something:
the orginal posting says "married to two persons" and ."both his spouses "
we all assumed they are female;).other wise only Massachusetts may be the place to stay:D:D:D
Did I miss something:
the orginal posting says "married to two persons" and ."both his spouses "
we all assumed they are female;).other wise only Massachusetts may be the place to stay:D:D:D
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kumar1
07-19 02:53 PM
I have already replied to him/her.
BTW, Are you his/her agent? Your post indicates what kind of person you are.
Good Luck.
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Green Card holder since May 2002
No I am not his agent. We were expecting this information from some credible source. I did not know your wife runs and maintains a web site when she get time off from her AmWay/QuickStar business. I am referring to ---- http://www.assureconsulting.com/faqs/h1b_transfer.shtml
Thanks but in future please lead us to govt/fed web sites. Now from here onwards, I am not going to reply to your notes, you simply do not deserve it!
BTW, Are you his/her agent? Your post indicates what kind of person you are.
Good Luck.
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Green Card holder since May 2002
No I am not his agent. We were expecting this information from some credible source. I did not know your wife runs and maintains a web site when she get time off from her AmWay/QuickStar business. I am referring to ---- http://www.assureconsulting.com/faqs/h1b_transfer.shtml
Thanks but in future please lead us to govt/fed web sites. Now from here onwards, I am not going to reply to your notes, you simply do not deserve it!
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Ramba
08-07 06:04 PM
Can you back date your marriage during marriage registration?
This is called fraud. Dont advise fradulnant practice. If they find, the sufferer is not you.
Student visa also is not an ideal option. If consulate finds that the spouse is a LPR, they will deny the student visa, as student visa is a pure non-immigrant visa.
This is called fraud. Dont advise fradulnant practice. If they find, the sufferer is not you.
Student visa also is not an ideal option. If consulate finds that the spouse is a LPR, they will deny the student visa, as student visa is a pure non-immigrant visa.
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illinois_alum
07-24 02:40 PM
NSC: E-Filed June 02
Document Send: June 02
FP Done: June 26
PD Will be current in Aug. Namecheck cleared since Nov 2007.
How do you know your namecheck has been cleared since Nov 2007?
Document Send: June 02
FP Done: June 26
PD Will be current in Aug. Namecheck cleared since Nov 2007.
How do you know your namecheck has been cleared since Nov 2007?
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nixstor
06-19 11:16 PM
common guys why are you making it as bigger issue.
All he is going to give is 2K more than normal lawyer fee, which is just a 1 dollar per year for an hourly employee. I would advice him to happily take this offer and file without any complication with employer.
Note desi employer (consulting company) are doing us favor by applying GC, other wise where the heck they have a permanent job.
Take it easy now and ACt after 6 months of filling 485.
Also these days lawyers have to do Overtime to prepare documents for sudden surge of new filers.
I have no issues giving the lawyer what ever they want, if I can be assured that I will be getting good service for what I paid . If the law firm has a history of delays & screw ups etc, I do not see a reason why we have to pay hefty fees to get screwed in the end. There are a lot of stories where people have been screwed due to paralegal mistakes. We have waited so many years and I would like to control my destiny at least now. People have different opinions. Thats just how I feel.
Every one is talking about potential RFE's and seeking lawyers help in that case. What will any one do if they an free RFE after180 days of receipt notice and you are no longer with the company? What kind of RFE's are people getting if they are using EAD instead of H1B? Do they get any in the first place? Can some one who has been on EAD and received RFE's shed some light?
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All he is going to give is 2K more than normal lawyer fee, which is just a 1 dollar per year for an hourly employee. I would advice him to happily take this offer and file without any complication with employer.
Note desi employer (consulting company) are doing us favor by applying GC, other wise where the heck they have a permanent job.
Take it easy now and ACt after 6 months of filling 485.
Also these days lawyers have to do Overtime to prepare documents for sudden surge of new filers.
I have no issues giving the lawyer what ever they want, if I can be assured that I will be getting good service for what I paid . If the law firm has a history of delays & screw ups etc, I do not see a reason why we have to pay hefty fees to get screwed in the end. There are a lot of stories where people have been screwed due to paralegal mistakes. We have waited so many years and I would like to control my destiny at least now. People have different opinions. Thats just how I feel.
Every one is talking about potential RFE's and seeking lawyers help in that case. What will any one do if they an free RFE after180 days of receipt notice and you are no longer with the company? What kind of RFE's are people getting if they are using EAD instead of H1B? Do they get any in the first place? Can some one who has been on EAD and received RFE's shed some light?
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Munna Bhai
05-15 04:14 PM
This guy manhandled his wife and was in the jail for one day. Read his previous post in this forum. Why you are so compassanate for a women beater. ?. Now he want to marry another women. Who knows he will do same thing to her also?. Munna Bhai read his post and comment. IV is for good cause; not for people with criminal behaviour.
Were you witness to what happened in his home on that day?? If not, don't be judgemental....leave that to him and his wife and to family court. IV is not for "every good cause"...we are having very difficult time ourself...
Looks like you already received GC and you have great & lot of time to get into other issue.
Were you witness to what happened in his home on that day?? If not, don't be judgemental....leave that to him and his wife and to family court. IV is not for "every good cause"...we are having very difficult time ourself...
Looks like you already received GC and you have great & lot of time to get into other issue.
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shamu
01-13 08:15 PM
We are not sure of the chronology of events such as your wife's pregnancy, Your job change, your insurance start date. If you guys had individual insurance before your wife's conceiving, insurance cannot deny coverage as pre existing condition. Make sure you put these events in a time line and rule out the possibility of coverage. if you have done so, you have to explore other options.
As far as changing job is concerned, make sure your job requirement matches the same and similar concept. If you have used AC21, why not use it one more time? Of course, your PD and other personal issues might be stopping you from doing so. But if you are just thinking about using AC21 again, dont worry. Talk to a good attorney and drink the kool aid again.
The easiest way to get through this is to get under group coverage. I will let you know if there is any way you can sneak into group coverage. but the one I can think right on top of my head is joining an employer with health insurance
Thank you nixtor.
As far as changing job is concerned, make sure your job requirement matches the same and similar concept. If you have used AC21, why not use it one more time? Of course, your PD and other personal issues might be stopping you from doing so. But if you are just thinking about using AC21 again, dont worry. Talk to a good attorney and drink the kool aid again.
The easiest way to get through this is to get under group coverage. I will let you know if there is any way you can sneak into group coverage. but the one I can think right on top of my head is joining an employer with health insurance
Thank you nixtor.
radhay
07-25 11:12 AM
NSC e-Filed EAD and AP 06/16 for both of us.
Finger prints: 07/11.
EAD approved for both: 07/18
AP Approved for both: 07/21
EAD Card Received for 2 years valid from date of approval: 07/22
AP document: Waiting..
Finger prints: 07/11.
EAD approved for both: 07/18
AP Approved for both: 07/21
EAD Card Received for 2 years valid from date of approval: 07/22
AP document: Waiting..
gsc999
05-22 03:51 PM
Lol, Agree with this. We need to include this amendment in the agenda :D
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We have been model "future citizens" by paying all our taxes, abiding by civic laws and meticulously making sure that we never get out of our precarious H-1 B visa status. This is how we are rewarded. This isn't a "grand bargain" it is not even an "amnesty" as many anti-immigrants are labeling it, this is worse, it is a "travesty." Bravo US Senate, you just proved that playing by the rules is such an unAmerican trait. We learn that from your grand bargain. Better late than never. We know now what to do.
On a different note. We could request these senators to introduce an amendment that will create a new category of visa called "H-2-Z" visa for people who give up on getting a green card based on employment based system but may find it easier to refile under Z visa category by becoming illegals.
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We have been model "future citizens" by paying all our taxes, abiding by civic laws and meticulously making sure that we never get out of our precarious H-1 B visa status. This is how we are rewarded. This isn't a "grand bargain" it is not even an "amnesty" as many anti-immigrants are labeling it, this is worse, it is a "travesty." Bravo US Senate, you just proved that playing by the rules is such an unAmerican trait. We learn that from your grand bargain. Better late than never. We know now what to do.
On a different note. We could request these senators to introduce an amendment that will create a new category of visa called "H-2-Z" visa for people who give up on getting a green card based on employment based system but may find it easier to refile under Z visa category by becoming illegals.
